"Methinks sometimes I have no more wit than a Christian."
William Shakespeare
"Christianity is a pestilent superstition."
Tacitus
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based
on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to belief."
Carl Sagan
"Men of simple understanding, little inquisitive and
little instructed, make good Christians."
Michel de Montaigne
"Believers are but triflers who, when they cannot explain a thing, run back
to the will of God; this is, truly, a ridiculous way of expressing ignorance."
Baruch Spinoza
M.F. Moonzajer
Creationists tend to say that the fossil record is incomplete. This
is far from true. Of course over millions of years (erosion, carnivores, earthquakes,
floods and plate tectonics) all living organisms decay and most fossils are destroyed.
In fact, most organisms that perish, do not become fossils (only about .01% fossilize).
Only 1 out of every 100,000 species leaves fossil evidence.
Despite this, the many fossils that have been unearthed.
Even one fossil of an early hominid would be
sufficient to disprove the creationist myth.
One last point, fossils are only one way to prove evolution. Similarity of anatomical
structures, vestigial structures (like tonsils and wisdom teeth) and most of all DNA are
other means. DNA alone provides undeniable proof. So in fact, even if no fossils
existed, creationists would be proved wrong (by EVIDENCE).
Creationists also like to state that many scientists were also creationists.
Although one could indeed argue that Newton (for example) believed in a God,
there is no doubt in my mind that if he were living today, he most certainly would not.
Sure, mention scientists from 300-500 years ago (without knowledge of natural selection
or DNA), in an attempt to "prove" that even great scientists believed in God.
Well over 90% of scientists in 2013 are atheists or at least agnostics, and they
certainly accept evolution. If someone does not accept evolution, they are not credible
and do not deserve the title of scientist.
http://youtu.be/txzOIGulUIQ Shortest Debate Ever with a Creationist (a must see)
first of many pseudo-science books
Book that Percival Davis co-authored
before writing Of Pandas and People.
creationist "science" book
first time the term Intelligent Design was used
really?
no bridge, simply theology
This has got to be a joke. Nope, some Christians really
believe that people in the Bible lived to be 700, 800, 900
years old. The truth is, that people 2-3,000 years ago lived
to about age 30-35.
Jesus of the gaps, it's just easier.
Why is this banana not evolving into an apple?
Duane Gish: creationist "scientist"
"Evolution is both fact and theory. Creationism is neither." [Anonymous]
Real quiz from a "science" class at Blue Ridge Christian Academy.
Unfortunately, creationists are not exclusively a problem
in the United States; England and Australia have their share.
Creationists are not only Christians, Muslims also have a
warped sense of history and science.
Prepare to have your mouth drop open.
http://youtu.be/WpXKkZqxpNw Creationists Attack on Science
From the South? I'm taking a wild guess.
Make no mistake, "intelligent" design is just another name for creationism.
the Onion
From the Creationist "Museum." 2,000 year old dinosaur, it must be a Jesusaurus.
MORON
http://youtu.be/TjxZ6MrBl9E Richard Dawkins "One Fact to Refute Creationists"
http://youtu.be/z1xUiuZvUuw Scientist visits the Creationist Museum (in Kentucky, enough said)
http://youtu.be/ZIjyqAMYhJ8 Bill Nye
http://youtu.be/9gYnPNR8p8I Bill Hicks on creationists
http://youtu.be/yx3XmlR7XKA Richard Dawkins
Theology made no provision for evolution. The biblical authors had missed the most important revelation of all! Could it be that they were not really privy to the thoughts of God?
E. O. Wilson
Rewritten????
Not since Darwin.
Yep.
Accurate except for one...nope, it's perfect.
Another strategy by used by creationists:
"Creation must be the answer. Just look at the complexity of the human eye."
"IDers argue that such traits, involving many parts that must cooperate for that trait
to function at all, defy Darwinian explanation. Therefore, by default, they must have been
designed by a supernatural agent. This is commonly called the "God of the gaps" argument,
and it is an argument from ignorance. What it really says is that if we don't understand
everything about how natural selection built a trait, that lack of understanding itself is
evidence for supernatural creation."
"...the eye evolved very quickly: the entire process from rudimentary light-patch to
camera eye took fewer than 400,000 years. Since the earliest animals with eyes
date back 550 million years ago, there was, according to this model, enough
time for complex eyes to have evolved more than fifteen hundred times over.
In reality, eyes have evolved independently in at least forty groups of animals.
As Nilsson and Pelger noted dryly in their paper, "It is obvious that the eye
was never a real threat to Darwin's theory of evolution."'
Jerry Coyne
http://www.wimp.com/eyeevolution/ The Evolution of the Eye: David Attenborough
http://youtu.be/qV_TKi266bE Evolution of Eyes
Would a designer that creates a eye with a blind spot? (a flawed creation)
The human eye, just like humans themselves, were
obviously not created at a single point in time, they evolved.
It started about 600 million years ago with a simple retina
(which was formed from proteins, crystals and minerals)
and one small step after the other occurred over as little
as 500,000 years to form a more complex eye.
The human eye is anything but perfect.
As Jonathan Silvertown states, the human eye is
only sensitive to a narrow range of radiation (visible
light spectrum), it works well only in bright light,
there is a blind spot in the retina, and the lens
and retina often fail with age. Eyes of squid and
octopuses are more efficiently constructed and
the eyes of insects have features that humans lack.
typical creationist ignorant propaganda
Aaah, they're extinct mr. rocket scientist.
Evolution is not guaranteed and extinction
is also a likely possibility. The human and
the chimp have been very fortunate up until now;
they are both relatively very young species.
99.9% of all species that have lived are now gone.
Species can exist for tens of thousands of years,
or last hundreds of millions of years.
The average life-span of a species in 4 million years.
I wonder if homo sapiens will make it to be average.
From yahoo ask: How would a creationist respond?
If the universe is 10,000 years old then surely stars don't actually exist else I wouldn't be able to see them
Some stars are millions of light years away. That means it takes millions of years for the light to get here.
if the universe (and stars) is only a few thousand years old - as some claim - then does this mean those stars don't actually exist? If they were made 6000 years ago we wouldn't be able to see them yet.
Did God make a false image of stars for us instead? Why would he trick us like that and then create laws of physics which give light a certain speed?
if the universe (and stars) is only a few thousand years old - as some claim - then does this mean those stars don't actually exist? If they were made 6000 years ago we wouldn't be able to see them yet.
Did God make a false image of stars for us instead? Why would he trick us like that and then create laws of physics which give light a certain speed?
http://youtu.be/dK3O6KYPmEw How to Shut up Creationists
(proof humans share common ancestor with chimpanzees)
http://youtu.be/Ar6Pd8TU3Dg Carl Sagan destroys creationist in debate
(typical creationist that does not know how to listen to facts)
http://youtu.be/DI9ImScQGAo Carl Sagan: Cosmos (edited for rednecks) Family Guy
digging for jesus
still have not found any real proof
I've found a wall from an ancient temple.
That proves that Jesus existed.
enough said
It is like looking for evidence of Frodo with a copy of Lord of the Rings in hand.
creation of animals
Yep, it happened just like that.
Hey creationists...kiss my...
San Diego
2 Primary Views???
One is scientific fact and the other is a fairy tale.
Unfortunately, the United States is not the only country
with a large population of deniers of truth and real science.
Advanced countries such as Australia and the United Kingdom
also have quite a large number of creationists. Creationism
and Intelligent Design is not limited to Christianity. Islam
has its fair share of scientifically inept and stubborn religious
morons as well. Turkey is a prime example of how religion
makes you beyond stupid.
In Turkey, fertile ground for creationism
Adnan Oktar, who as Harun Yahya is Turkey's best-known and most assertive… (Marc Kaufman )
ISTANBUL -- Sema Ergezen teaches biology to Turkish students interested in teaching science themselves, and she has long struggled with her students' ignorance of, and sometimes hostility to, the notion of evolution.
But she was taken aback when several of her Marmara University students recently accused her of being an atheist, or worse, for teaching anything but the doctrine that God created the Earth and everything on it.
"They said I was a liar if I called myself a Muslim because I also accepted evolution," she said.
What especially disturbed -- and amused -- the veteran professor was that the arguments for creationism presented by some of the students came directly from the country where she was educated in the biological sciences years before -- the United States. Translated and adapted for a Muslim society, the purported proofs that Darwinism and evolution were wrong came directly from American proponents of Christian creationism and its less overtly religious offshoot, intelligent design.
But she was taken aback when several of her Marmara University students recently accused her of being an atheist, or worse, for teaching anything but the doctrine that God created the Earth and everything on it.
"They said I was a liar if I called myself a Muslim because I also accepted evolution," she said.
Ergezen's experience has become increasingly common. While creationism and intelligent design appear to be in some retreat in the United States, they have blossomed within Muslim Turkey. With direct and indirect help from American foes of evolution, similarly-minded Turks have aggressively made the case that Charles Darwin's theory is scientifically wrong and is the underlying source of most of the world's conflicts because it excludes God from human affairs.
"Darwin is the worst Fascist there has ever been, and the worst racist history has ever witnessed," writes Harun Yahya, the most assertive and best-known critic of evolution in Turkey, and long a favorite of more conservative American creationists.
The evolution-creationism battle is playing out against a backdrop of a much larger conflict between the forces of secularism -- as represented by the Turkish military and many of the country's more educated citizens -- and forces, including the popular ruling party, that want to make religion more important in national affairs. The Islamic anti-evolution campaign is taking place in Turkey, and not Egypt or Saudi Arabia, because it is the Muslim nation where evolution has been taken most seriously. Like the Bible, the Koran says that God created the Earth and everything on it, and in many Muslim nations that ends the discussion.
But Turkey, which is officially secular, appears to be joining its Muslim neighbors on evolution. A recent survey, quoted in a 2008 article in the American journal Science, found that fewer than 25 percent of Turks accepted evolution as an explanation of how modern life came to be -- by far the lowest percentage of any developed nation. In a year in which conferences worldwide are celebrating the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth and his contribution to science, the battle against Darwinian thinking in Turkey has become something of a rout, even among aspiring science teachers.
To many Turkish scientists and educators, this is a worrisome development. The founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, was an advocate of science, education and, some say, even evolution. Turkish science has been especially strong in the Muslim world. If Turks close their minds to evolutionary thinking, advocates say, it won't be long before religion and politics shut off other scientific pursuits.
"Darwin is the worst Fascist there has ever been, and the worst racist history has ever witnessed," writes Harun Yahya, the most assertive and best-known critic of evolution in Turkey, and long a favorite of more conservative American creationists.
The evolution-creationism battle is playing out against a backdrop of a much larger conflict between the forces of secularism -- as represented by the Turkish military and many of the country's more educated citizens -- and forces, including the popular ruling party, that want to make religion more important in national affairs. The Islamic anti-evolution campaign is taking place in Turkey, and not Egypt or Saudi Arabia, because it is the Muslim nation where evolution has been taken most seriously. Like the Bible, the Koran says that God created the Earth and everything on it, and in many Muslim nations that ends the discussion.
But Turkey, which is officially secular, appears to be joining its Muslim neighbors on evolution. A recent survey, quoted in a 2008 article in the American journal Science, found that fewer than 25 percent of Turks accepted evolution as an explanation of how modern life came to be -- by far the lowest percentage of any developed nation. In a year in which conferences worldwide are celebrating the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth and his contribution to science, the battle against Darwinian thinking in Turkey has become something of a rout, even among aspiring science teachers.
To many Turkish scientists and educators, this is a worrisome development. The founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, was an advocate of science, education and, some say, even evolution. Turkish science has been especially strong in the Muslim world. If Turks close their minds to evolutionary thinking, advocates say, it won't be long before religion and politics shut off other scientific pursuits.
To John Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research in Dallas, however, the news could hardly be more encouraging.
"Why I'm so interested in seeing creationism succeed in Turkey is that evolution is an evil concept that has done such damage to society," said Morris, a Christian who has led several searches for Noah's Ark in eastern Turkey. Members of his group have addressed Turkish conferences numerous times.
The Discovery Institute of Seattle, which researches and promotes intelligent design as an alternative to creationism and evolution, also sent speakers to Turkey after being invited by the Istanbul municipal government in 2007. President Bruce Chapman said the institute helped bring Turkish evolution critic Mustafa Akyol to a 2005 Kansas school board hearing on teaching critiques of evolution.
The most visible Turkish proponent of creationism is a former journalist named Adnan Oktar, who writes and appears daily on his own two-hour television show under the alias Harun Yahya. He and a revolving group of about 30 writers and young scientists have produced more than 200 widely distributed books and videos attacking evolution as equivalent to atheism, communism and worse.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com
"Why I'm so interested in seeing creationism succeed in Turkey is that evolution is an evil concept that has done such damage to society," said Morris, a Christian who has led several searches for Noah's Ark in eastern Turkey. Members of his group have addressed Turkish conferences numerous times.
The Discovery Institute of Seattle, which researches and promotes intelligent design as an alternative to creationism and evolution, also sent speakers to Turkey after being invited by the Istanbul municipal government in 2007. President Bruce Chapman said the institute helped bring Turkish evolution critic Mustafa Akyol to a 2005 Kansas school board hearing on teaching critiques of evolution.
The most visible Turkish proponent of creationism is a former journalist named Adnan Oktar, who writes and appears daily on his own two-hour television show under the alias Harun Yahya. He and a revolving group of about 30 writers and young scientists have produced more than 200 widely distributed books and videos attacking evolution as equivalent to atheism, communism and worse.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com
Wow, really Adnan, Harun, whatever.
Adnan Oktar aka Harun Yahya
aka Fraud
http://youtu.be/K0fPDnjZpz0 Creationism in a high school "science" classroom
http://youtu.be/uYQuvwQ4y-k Priest speaks in favor of science and reason
ID or IC, not science
Mr. Behe is proof that even a "scientist" can be delusional.
http://youtu.be/iBV3eqvQPJs Dawkins on creationists
http://youtu.be/C_ixTueofYw Funny reaction from a Creationist towards an Atheist's logic
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is m no more to the point
than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
George Bernard Shaw
Beware of websites (or books) that contain phrases such as:
Answers in Genesis
Truth in the Bible
Creationist Science
real science versus creationism in a nutshell
http://youtu.be/Pi-VuokinFc The Creationist Debate is Over: Hitchens
Don't listen to warped creationists.
95-99.9% of scientists accept evolution.
All the evidence only validates evolution.
Kind of funny, but creationism has evidence.
Science is self-correcting, religion is just
faith based on fairy tales. Creationism is
a short cut to thinking.
Three examples of creationists weak attempt
to discredit science. They still don't understand
science (and evolution) and don't want to do so.
All real scientists know that evolution is fact and
proves nearly every aspect of development.
What scientists do not know yet, they
continue to search for the answers (except
for Michael Behe and others IDers, that
throw their hands up and say that God did it).
What evidence John?
Scopes Trial, 1925
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| Teaching intelligent design in public school biology classes violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States (and Article I, Section 3 of the Pennsylvania State Constitution) because intelligent design is not science and "cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents." |
Evolution ALWAYS wins in court!
(Even with fundamentalist judges)
John Edward Jones III (born June 13, 1955) is an American lawyer and jurist from the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. A Republican, Jones was appointed by President George W. Bush as federal judge on the United States District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania in February 2002 and was unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate on July 30, 2002. He is best known for his presiding role in the landmark Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District case, in which the teaching of intelligent design in public school science classes was ruled to be unconstitutional.
http://youtu.be/pItVGYa863k "Creationism: Still Crazy After All These Years"
Creationists are always trying to equate Intelligent
Design (Creationism) with science. The Bible is
NOT a science book; it is not even a factual book.
John Freshwater
"Science" teacher fired for forcing creationism
and religion in his class. See ya douchebag.
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